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is mounting. the president pushing tax checks on those making over 250,000. all that promise, the second meeting between president and congressional leaders is an even scheduled yet. senate majority leader harry reid refusing to put cuts on the table and saying it is republicans who are holding up negotiations. should we expect to go right over the cliff? let's start by talking about whether it is impossible to get some kind of thoroughgoing resolution of this issue. >> at think it is, but we have to be working on a full-time. the president needs to be here talking to members of congress and working out a big deal, meaning tax reform, and panama reform, and other spending control. this is what the american people want. gerri: let's talk about what the president is doing. meeting with small business owners, tomorrow middle-class families. friday leaving tanning going to pennsylvania to visit a small company. what do you think about that? saying he should be focused full-time. this kind of schedule would seem to indicate his schedule is elsewhere. >> meeting with members of congress, of th
>>> tonight mutiny in the gop. republicans rethinking the no new taxes pledge. will they turn their backs on norquist to save america? tonight i'll ask him himself if he's losing the fight. willie nelson is back on the road. how many girls has he loved before? >> the reason divorces are so expensive is they're worth it. >> the hits keep on coming for willie nelson and i don't mean his songs. >> i probably did, i probably did. >> a very entertaining interview. this is piers morgan tonight. >> good evening. the big story tonight teetering on the edge of the fiscal cliff about 36 days to go until tax increases kick in. the white house and congress are playing a high stakes game of let's make a deal. president obama spoke with john boehner this weekend and expressed confidence the deal can't be reached before the deadline. that's what most americans want. in the the latest poll. >> when you're $16 trillion in debt, the only pledge we should make to each other is to avoid. >> you signed it 20 years ago, 18 years ago is for that congress. the world has changed. >> joining me now is
and tax increases that will take place if lawmakers fail to reach a deal before the end of this year. since president obama's reelection, democrats and republicans have staked out their positions on how to resolve this potential crisis. the president wants higher taxes on the rich, specifically over one half trillion over the next decade. >> what i'm concerned about is not finding ourselves in a situation where the wealthy are not pay more or are paying as much as they should. middle-class families making a difference. lou: house speaker john baena says new revenue should be raised through tax reform, not raising taxes. >> we have talked about this for every year. you can lose all kinds of limitation in doubt. the specifics at this point, would not be conducive to try to come to agree with the white house. lou: who blinks first? we take all that up here tonight. how can the republican party broadened its base following governor romney's defeat? we will be talking with the author of the best-selling book the amateur and former senior staff member and president george w. bush administr
with eric schoenberg, a patriotic millionaires, he's rich and he wants people to pay more tax. >> and did you inherit wealth. >> first of all, yes, i inherited wealth. >> you inherited. but also made money on my own. stuart: wait a minute, you inherited wealth. >> i did. stuart: what about the rest of us strivers, charles payne. all of us. >> all three of us. stuart: it was good. we'll have more of that interview coming up in our next hour when andrea tantaros and don peebles. you can see the whole thing on your facebook page. and grover norquist, says the republican will not cave on the fiscal cliff and that the g.o.p. will not agree to higher tax rate. i disagree with that. grover coming up after the break. so, too, is the opening bell. next, is this what republicans are up against? >> we cannot afford to extend the bush tax cuts for the wealthy. what i'm not going to do is to extend bush tax cuts for the wealthiest 2% that we can't afford. can your hearing aid do this? lyric can. lyric can. lyric can. lyric by phonak is the world's only 24/7, 100% init's tiny.aring device. but lyric's
. >> they voted for government that works. >> we don't understand why raising tax rates is the solution. >> can party leaders get a deal? >> impossible. >> all this talk about taxing the rich is nonsense. >> grover norquist. >> you speak of grover norquist. >> he's an entertaining warrior. >> pledge mentality is really on the run right now. >> speaker boehner clearly wants a deal. >> he can't have one arm tied behind his back. >> the top 1%, only 42% of the wealth. >> 48.5 million people lived below the poverty level. >> we should ask the wealthy to start paying their fair share. >> the american sense of fairness, no one should pay more than 25%. >> today's republican party has imploded. >> they are in denial. >> they are looking for someone to blame. >> grover is no longer speaking for the party. >> they may not be willing to just die on this hill anymore. >>> good evening. i'm ezra cline in for lawrence o'donnell. the craziest thing is happening in washington right now. you've probably heard of the fiscal cliff or as lawrence likes to call it, the fiscal curve or as my friend calls t the aust
-- host: welcome to "washington journal." of the senate host: an increase in payroll taxes and the scheduled spending cuts across the board. a couple republicans yesterday signaled they could be flexible on the anti-tax pledge that they signed if it gets them closer to a deal with the white house. what is your reaction? here are the numbers to call. you can also find us online. send us a tweet or join us on facebook. you can also e-mail us. here's "usa today" looking at what happened on the sunday talk shows. it says -- the south carolina senator became the second republican senator in recent days to back away from a no tax pledge devised in the decades ago. the willingness to break ranks could prove crucial as gop leaders and democrats try to reach a deal before taxing and spending changes take effect in january. new york representative king says economic conditions have changed since the anti-tax pledge first emerged. he's a republican. that thee gop's say fiscal cliff deal is what defined grover norquist. let's hear congressman pete king of new york, a republican. he was
for a tax increase. we could ask president bush how his second term went after he broke his pledge. did he damage the pledge or by breaking his pledge, he lost a second term for the presidency. >> and this morning, even fox and friends were getting all philosophical about till death do us part pledges. >> i think you get into really difficult situations in relationships in general when you make people sign on the dotted line and then you crucify them if they decide to change their line. i'll bring it back to marriage. marriages don't work when one or both parties stand on both sides of the fence and say i'm not budging. then you get divorced. that's what happens. >> crystal, let me explain this being dumped thing to you because i know you've never -- >> it's happened once or twice. >> stop. you lost an election, so you have some sensation of what grover is going through. >> poor guy. i feel for him. it is remarkable because he's had this pledge in place since 1986. george h.p. bush violated the pledge, it essentially led to newt gingrich and the contract for america and we have been living
. >>> what do you do when they're screaming for entitlement reform on the right, demanding more tax revenue on the left and only a very small stretch of common ground? take it to the people. for the next two days the president is at the white house sitting down with small business leaders. tomorrow he will host middle-class americans who say they can't afford to see their taxes go up. >> if you take away the $2200 from my paycheck it will severely impact my family. >> it begins again with this question of fairness. everybody needs to pull their fair share. >> and on friday he'll return to the stump speaking at a manufacturing plant in pennsylvania. the message is clear, president obama's number one priority is ensure that tax cuts for middle-class families are preserved and tax rates for the wealthy expire. according to warren buffet that idea is already being accepted across the country. >> there's a general feeling among the general public and congress, that the rich like me have been getting away with low tax rates and time to make the tax rates more progressive. >> while the president s
this morning surrounded by, quote, middle class americans who will see their taxes go up if no deal is done. he'll sit down with more than a dozen ceos hater today including several who were prominent supporters of mitt romney. the white house even has a new hash tag called #pound#my2k. i asked jay carney whether this is just a game of running out the clock until the real negotiations begin in late december. is everything just killing time until the deadline comes? >> no. >> it seems everybody -- >> it doesn't feel like killing time. >> killing time until the final week and the jet fumes of the airport and then everybody will sit down and hammer this out. >> well, look, here's a fact, the president has on the table a proposal that reduces the deficit by $4 trillion. that is substance. so he has not waited for people to start smelling the jet fumes at national airport. he has actively put forward a plan. >> the white house and republicans are ramping up their pr, something significant is happening behind the scenes. both sides appear to be preparing their own basis to eat their vegetables, if yo
income tax. and because they don't pay their a bunch of takers. you in this room, you're the makers, you're being victimized by the takers and there is nothing i can do about those takers so forget about it. i think it was a disaster. and a lot of the people in that 47% are in fact the base of the republican party. >> david. >> this is not because we're having a blue hand love in. if the republican party were to listen to half of what steve said in his opening comments they would rehabilitate themselves quickly. i think there is going to be a civil war between the view of people like steve and the view of some on the hard right. and i thought up here i'm not going to say a challenging thing about governor romney or pour salt in any wounds. but a few hours ago governor romney did a conference call to thank some of his donors. and he said that the reason he lost was that the president had given gifts, his word gifts to young people in the form of student loans and student loan repayment process. gifts to the latino policy by saying dream act kids would not be deported over the coming years
is that revenue going to come from? >> increasing tax rates is going to harm economic growth. >> warren buffett was out this morning talking about tacking the wealthy. >> time to make the tax rates more progressive. >> that's just silly. >> grover norquist, he wanted ground government in the bathtub. i hope he slips in there with it. >> medicaid, social security. >> this is not part of the conversation. we're not going to raid social security. just another fight in washington. >> there's going to be blood and hair and eyeballs all over the floor. >> i'm more positive than most. >> if not, we go off the supposed cliff. >> the fiscal cliff or slope. the bump of various height. >>> thelma and louise might need to make room in the car for the president of the united states. at the white house today, senior obama administration officials met with liberal leaders and union officials. "the washington post" reports that one told him after the meeting, quote, would the white house go off the cliff if it's between that and compromising their core principles? i was left with the impression that they would
and continue negotiations over the looming automatic spending cuts and tax hikes that could kick in at the start of the new year. the administration is out with a brand new report this morning showing how letting taxes go up for everyone just to protect the richest americans would cut consumer spending and slow growth by about a point and a half. according to the president's council of economic advisers, we would spend about $200 billion less next year because we would be paying more in taxes. consumer spending is about 70% of our gdp. up until now hundreds of republicans have been tied to the grover norquist-created pledge not to raise taxes. but current economic reality is setting in and conservatives are starting to stray with conditions. here is south carolina senator lindsey graham. >> ly violate the pledge, long story short for the good of the country only if democrats will do entitlement reform. >> that's a whole nother conversation. on the issue of taxes warren buffett has written an op-ed in "the new york
sure raising taxes on the wealthy is part of the deal. politico is calling them cliff jumpers. l good morning to both of you. >> good morning. >> let me play a couple of clips to start out about the pledge. >> i will violate the pledge, long story short, for the good of the country only if democrats will do entitlement reform. >> a pledge you sign 20 years ago, 18 years ago, is for that congress. if i were in congress in 1841 i would have supported declaration of war against japan. i won't attack japan today. the world changed and the economic situation is different. >> i am not oblg gate on the pledge. i was just elected. the only thing i am honoring is the oath that i take when i serve when i am sworn in in january. >> chambliss already made a similar statement last week. the question is is this a real softening of positions? does it give them room to make deal. >> two things. first, let's look at the real room being created. so far i haven't heard anyone say i am willing to raise marginal tax rates as part of a deal. they're arguing with the head of the antitax coalition about whet
to their attitude, taxes, the works. the people who hate to lose are blaming the right. the people who hate the center almost just as much as the left are saying they're right and they're going to not budge an inch. this looks like a fight with legs and not a bad spectator sport for progressives as napoleon once said, never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake. robert traynham and erin pikes. this should be an interesting match-up, you two. let's talk about this situation. i want to show you a tape from deny senior on "morning joe," a foreign adviser to mitt romney. he took on mitt romney critics have been filing on him. >> tens of thousands of people, you could hear the top ten surrogates at the event. i'm backstage with some of them, i won't mention their names but talking about romney like he's reagan. you know, the debate performances were the best debate performance of any republican nominee in presidential history. this guy was iconic. they were talking about him, because they believed he was going to win in four, five days. in fact, some of them were talking about transiti
and picks up just where it left off. stalemated over tax rates and entitlement spending. >> unfortunately, there's one obstacle standing between congress and compromise, grover norquist. for years, norquist has bullied lawmakers willing to put their oath of office or promise to serve constituents ahead of their pledge to this anti-tax zell lot. >> the washington democrats, every dollar that's ever been secured for anything is sacred. every dollar secured for anything is sacred. and they'll defend it to the death regardless of what it means for jobs, or the economy. >>> coming up here, the it's top economic adviser alan krueger. clashes in cairo today, more protests in tahrir square against egypt's president morsi. we'll have a live report. move over george clooney the on yan's kim junge un the sexiest man alive and beijing doesn't get the joke. good day, i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. no joke today on capitol hill. ambassador susan rice's attempt to clear the air with republicans over benghazi did not work as the white house had hoped. senators mccain, ayotte and graham say they
't act, if the president doesn't act, in unison, your taxes are going up come january 1st to help raise revenue to pay down the national debt. stay with me here for a moment because we'll show you exactly, you know, how much your taxes will be rising. but here's the thing. it doesn't have to happen, this predetermined jump in income taxes and the new parlor game on capitol hill is to pick the next republican, follow me here who is willing to break a no tax pledge made to a very powerful lobbyist, in order to cut a deal with the democrats to focus the pain of new taxes on the wealthy. see this picture? see these three guys. here is yet another republican speaking just this morning. >> i'm not obligated on the pledge. i made tennesseans aware i was just elected that the only thing i'm honoring is the oath that i take when i serve when i'm sworn in this january. >> so republican senator bob corker is saying his oath of office trumps any no tax pledge made to washington lobbyist grover nor quist. republican saxby chambliss says he cares more about america and the fiscal mess we're in than h
to get the majority of a majority on tax issues. he's not going to get a majority of majority on debt raising. >> much harder on the debt ceiling than taxes. >> that's what i'm saying. i refuse to vote to raise a debt ceiling when they were trying to raise it to $5 trillion. it's something you don't do unless you get a lot of cuts on the other side. >> and it's not a game. because if you don't raise it, we saw what happened last time, you can get your debt downgraded and has real economic consequenc consequences. and that's why when people think about the fiscal cliff, we all assume that sane minds will prevail and they'll come up with some deal. there's no guarantee that sane minds will prevail. and recent history would suggest that sanity almost never prevails in washington. so you can assume it's going to be more difficult than we think. you can assume that the bush tax cuts might all go away for a short period of time. and you cannot assume they just raise the debt limit. you cannot make that assumption. >> are the president's men and women -- are they under -- are they making the
is to keep the bush tax cuts, cut entitlements, and postpone cuts to the pentagon. in other words, they haven't budged at all. how is that compromise? how is that reasonable? but it gets worse. speaker boehner now says the health care law should go under the knife. boehner says, quote, we can't afford it. we can't afford to leave it in tact. that's why i've been clear that the law has to stay on the table as both parties discuss ways to solve our nation's massive debt challenge. folks, this debate is over. the american people have spoken. mitt romney ran on two big ideas in this campaign. cut the taxes and reveal our obama care. he lost. those ideas lost. but they didn't learn a thing. joining me now is congressman keith ellison, democrat for minnesota. he's co-chair of the progressive caucus. and former pennsylvania governor ed rendell, now an nchl bc news political analyst. thank you both for joining me tonight. >> glad to be here, al. >> good to be here. >> congressman, let me start with you. what is your are reaction to speaker boehner's claim that the health care law should be on the tab
. >>> but also this half hour, higher taxes on the table as the country edges closer to that fiscal cliff at the end of the year. some republican lawmakers are rethinking their promise not to raise the taxes. >>> and then here's a tax problem worth having, the tax bill on a record $425 million powerball jackpot that's up for grabs wednesday night. people across the country are dreaming. >> and we all know the chances are beyond slim. i think, the money you are putting down is for the fantasy. just that moment, you go, "man if i won this, wouldn't that be great." you're buying that moment of escape. not buying a real shot. >> you're very familiar with fantasizing, right? >> oh, yeah. >> money. winning. >> helps you get through the day. >>> and later they're back. 'tis the season for my favorite family, the griswolds, what got them together for 30 seconds after 23 years. can't believe it's been that long. details on what they're doing coming up in "the skinny." if you do not like national lampoon's "christmas vacation." you have no soul. funniest holiday movie ever. love the griswolds. >> c
about america's fiscal problems. i outlined a framework that deals with reforming our tax code and reforming our spending. i believe the framework that i have outlined in our meeting today is consistent with the president's call for a fair and balanced approach. to show our seriousness, we have put revenue on the table house speaker boehner -- on the table. >> house speaker pinera today after a meeting -- house speaker john boehner after a meeting at which the white house. does that mean that republicans are considering raising taxes on wealthy americans? >> yes, but there's a divorce between raising revenues and raising rates. and i'm afraid that half of washington, the liberal half, has an inability to understand. you can keep rates the same, or even lower them, as was recommended by the president's own debt commission, which he rejected, if you broaden the base by eliminating deductions and credits and all kinds of exemptions. that is how they did it in 1986. in the reagan-o'neill agreement. they lower the rates and raise revenue by broadening the base. every quarter century
" reports this morning that a budget deal could reduce the tax deduction millions pay on their mortgage interest. nancy cordes is on capitol hill. good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you, charlie, and norah. the president and house speaker john boehner spoke by phone over the weekend. top aides in the house and senate tell us that negotiations at this point are just taking place between the president's staff and speaker boehner's staff. that's because any deal that involves raising tax revenue is going to face its biggest challenge in the republican-led house. top republicans returning from thanksgiving recess urged the president to make the first offer in fiscal cliff negotiations. and they expressed a new openness to raising tax revenue, if democrats agree to make cuts to strengthen medicare and medicaid. >> elections come and go. and when they go the spirit to find common ground becomes greater. >> reporter: georgia republican saxby chambliss and mark warner lead the gang of eight. four senate democrats and four senate republicans, who originally met
and continue to carry which is look the president's approach is attractive to people who are not paying taxes. >> michael: jayar? >> this has been done. he continues to talk about all the things that he did to hurt himself, and then watched everybody implode around him and see where he is. we didn't like him before the election, and and now things change and we get to see everything about him afterward. >> michael: and he does seem like a turkey, doesn't he, brett. >> the things about these turkeys, they die within a year because they were bred for thanksgiving. i'm not going to say that mitt romney is going to die but mitt romney was bred for running for president. after wards what emergency is there but to give him a little slack and let him live out his life at mt. vernon. >> and sending these turkeys to mt. vernon, so i don't know if we want to give him that. >> i don't eat meat. i'll vote for the turkeys. we're insulting these turkeys. they're terrific. they have families. they have nice friends they don't hurt anybody. they don't go around slashing other people's resources. i think the
it comes to extending the bush tax cuts for the middle class. do the exit polls show he has the public on his side? chris van hollen will join us live. plus, another day of deadly protests in cairo over egypt's president morsi's new sweeping powers that he is seeking. we'll get a live report. plus, the former head of florida's republican party, he's making a stunning claim about the state's early voting law saying it was deliberately designed to suppress minority votes. it's just one of the things we thought you should know. join our conversation on twitter. you can find us at @tamronhall and at @newsnation. a winter wonderland doesn't just happen. it takes some doing. some coordinating. and a trip to the one place with the new ideas that help us pull it all together. from the things that hang and shine... the things that sparkle and jingle. all while saving the things that go in our wallet. more saving. more doing. that's the power of the home depot. get fresh cut savings. live trees are arriving weekly. now's a good time to think about your options. are you looking for a plan t
the automatic spending cuts and tax increases. he said going over the fiscal cliff would pose a substantial risk to the economy. according to a new study the fiscal cliff could give 90% of americans new tax bills when the bush tax rates and some by president obama would both end. the working poor would be among the hardest hit. a tax policy center analysis showed a married couple making about $30,000 a year would on average go from receiving a $15 tax credit to owing $1400. >> wow. >> yeah. that's probably a reason to try and get something done? >> maybe we will. maybe we will. >> you would think. >> yeah. or maybe we can just talk about 2016. >> we could do that as well. how are you doing, willie? >> i'm doing well. >> good. just two weeks after the longest -- >> thanks for stopping by. >> doing well. >> you know, just two weeks after the longest, most expensive and exhausting election in u.s. history eyes are turning to 2016 as speculation begins over the next batch of candidates lining up to run for president. >> who could that be? i know it's going to be a surprise. >> i know it is too. we'r
of legislation or tax code reform or you name it, what ever the issue is? or is this strictly a candidate- driven phenomenon? >> i do not know. i think it will probably be -- somebody can write a $20 million check on every issue they choose. that is the world we are living in. they can write a check for an issue campaign. they can write a check to bribe -- tried to buy a governor's race. bacon ready check to try to control congress. the poisonous than for our country. in mitt romney's campan, the central actor was not the romney campaign but the super pac's. in our campaign it was the obama campaign. may be the last presidential campaign to be able to say that. >> request and from a student? >> given how unpopular the super pac's are, is there any possibility they might be able to produce some kind of way of stopping money in the future sunday? >> given how unpopular the super pac's are -- i am not sure about that promise, you can talk about that, is there any way to stop them? >> i think we had a 30-ar campaign finance regime in the country that has tried to characterize political money into cat
care, food, housing, to you name it. these are people who pay no income tax, 47% of americans pay no income tax. so my job is not to worry about those people. >> mitt romney's famous comments on the 47% raise two questions. how can he say that? how can he say a single mom working two jobs and taking advantage of the child tax credit and a senior that worked all of his life and enjoying the years of his life that he paid into how can he say they refuse to take responsibility for their lives? the other question was what the hell did he mean? romney said the 47% likely to vote for obama were the same 47% who didn't pay federal income taxes and are the same 47% who are dependent on government? that's not even a little bit true, not a little. a lot of the folks who don't pay federal income taxes are seniors, the most republican leaning age group in the country and there is no 47% in the country that refuses to take responsibility for their lives. they just don't exist. romney wasn't all wrong. the number 47% really did hold the key to this election. it was not the number of people who
with small business owners to keep the focus on letting the bush tax cuts expire for the rich. it's all part of a campaign to get a fair deal done. tomorrow he'll meet with a group of middle class americans who will explain how they'd be affected if republicans let their tax rates increase. he'll also have another meeting with ceos. on friday, the president's heading back on the road. he'll visit a pennsylvania toy manufacturer that depends on middle class shoppers, especially during the holiday season. this president knows how to make the case for the middle class. but will he be able to convince the rest of washington to get on board? joining me now is victoria day fran ce francessco society toe and dada milbank. thank you for coming on the show. victoria, how important is this new campaign? >> it's incredibly important. we've seen the president and his team have learned from their mistake. the mistake of 2010 of not capitalizing on the mobile outreach they developed with the 2008 campaign and instead they ended up with a shellacking. the last was wasting time and energy early on in his ne
that the election is over hopefully we'll have a moment in washington where the leaders come together and on tax reform and education and immigration and fiscal policy, now that we're no longer the issue of we have a reelection, that's done. barack obama has run his last campaign and you have divided government. i think the mandate the american people was sending is work together. focus on us not what divides you as politicians, focus on us. and i don't offer misplaced optimism often. because in washington you can get pessimistic quick. but i do have confidence there is path way on tax reform, on continued education reform, on doing some smart things around energy. and that's the test of the ment and the leaders in the senate and houses. can they come together post election. and for a period of time put your needs and the needs of the country first. and i have a great deal of confidence we'll do that. so i look forward to talking to you about the election that just happened. [applause] >> thank you for having me back. it's great to be back at the university of delaware and thank you for coming.
on the issue of taxes, saying they don't want to see the bush era tax cuts expire for the wealthiest americans. of course, that is something the democrats have been adamant about. so they're stuck on this old issue of taxes. and also stuck on the issue of entitlements. we had harry reid come out and basically say he wasn't open to reforming especially social security. so there's a big question mark about how they're going to move forward. remember, these are sort of their opening bids. presumably there is room for some sort of movement on either side. in terms of getting a deal done by the first of the year, i think there's a lot of pressure on both sides to try to get something done here. you remember the debt ceiling debate. after that sort of knockdown dragout fight, congress had its lowest approval ratings in history. they know they need to get something done. remember, if they don't get something done before the first of the year, it could have serious consequences on the economy. >> i want to ask you both to weigh in on this question. kristen, you do the political angle and neil you give
that the gop's opening offer, the sources said would freeze the bush era tax rates, change the inflation can clated for entitlement programs, keep the estate tate at 2012 levels and overhaul of the tax code and not provide a revenue target. martin, if this is the starting point, if that's the starting point -- are republicans as serious about compromise as they claim? >> that offer's like the sticker price at a car dealership. >> with room. >> you know you won't pay that and then the big question unanswered now is will republicans budge on rates or revenue? we have to distinguish. republicans are open to increasing tax revenue by a cap in deductions, closing loopholes and so far they haven't shown willingness to moving tax rates up for upper income americans. do they talk about entitlements? folks on the left say we're not touching entitlements right now. >> talk about what house speaker boehner said demanding that the president's health care law be on the table in the deficit talks, although didn't he tell diane sawyer it was the land of the law? anyway, the cincinnati enquirer saying we ca
's the question that may take the republicans now four years to answer. did we go too right on taxes and immigration and foreign policy or where were too moderate, not ideological enough? one thing you can never be wrong on, if you lose you can't brag. if you lose, everything gets it, everything you did and nobody will admit he or she is wrong. gee reid managing editor of the grio. joy, you first and john jump m in here. seems like if you look at the trial balloons for 2016 you see the two directions of the party. people like rubio, down in florida, who's talking about the seven days of creation again. and then on the other end of the world, you have chris christie talking about how many days it's going to take us to clean up this mess from sandy. once living in the secular real world, off in the ideological, world that the right likes to get into. joy, you're shaking your head. they haven't decided to go sky high into the ideology with the old testament or become a more modern party. >> i think you picked the right person to focus on. marco rubio, be seems to be at the crossroads. t
, when they've gotten down to brass tacks and what would have to be done and where the tax rates would need to be raised and where the cuts to medicare and medicaid would need to be, both sides seem unwilling to believe that the other side is really serious about making the changes that then. >> ben bernanke weighed in on this yesterday. let me play that for you. >> indeed, by the reckoning of the congressional budget office, the cbo, and that of many outside observers, a fiscal shock of that size would send the economy toppling back into recession. >> everyone i've had on this program, all the members of congress, have said to me, joanne, we have to get this done, of course it's going to get done. but we should remember it was a year ago today the grand bargain failed. so what's it going to take? >> you know, i think it might take the new congress being seated. i mean, if you think about it, you still have a lame duck congress so, while the election may have changed the atmosphere and sort of the story line for the members, the actual people themselves are still there. so they've not
for us to be concerned about the potential for estate tax problems moving forward. >> greta: thank you for being with us tonight. go to and let us know what yo anticipated. that would be me making the final appearance. >> hello everyone, happy thanksgiving. and i'm andrea tan tareatearos, happy turkey day. the five of us are honored to be celebrating you. many of you traveled a long way to stay with loved ones. i hit the streets to talk to people to see if they were looking forward to going home for the holidays. ♪ like home, nowhere quite like home ♪ >> family time is coming up, the holidays, are you looking forward to seeing your family. >> i do, i look forward to seeing them. >> are you lying? >> no, i'm not. >> are is there any family members you're the not looking forward to see? >> i think i'm smart enough not to answer that question. >> there's always one in every family. >> we have a very close knit family and enjoy each other, i can't say that. >> my brother and i argue over stuffing, a little of that. >> sometimes things happen that are a little tense.
the country 47%-- >> and how did they do that. >> and talked about all the time. 47% pay taxes. >> divide it if you take mitt romney's words and put them in a blender and it comes out like this stuff right here. and saying that he-- he wasn't talking about, he was talking about people who received benefits. >> that's who he was talking about, he wasn't dividing the country. >> all we had to listen to this year is obama lambaste the rich and openly hostile to businesses and how he got elected, class warfare. >> not class warfare. >> and what percent-- >> no idea. >> where did that come from, occupy wall street. where did you get the 99, 1%, that's occupy wall street. >> he only wants to raise taxes on 1%. >> no, he wants to do more. >> thanks for that introduction of this on thanksgiving day. >> dana. >> what i'm thankful for the election is over and that it was decisive and that he won and now the republican party is going to have to regroup. i think that was good for everybody, get it done, over with and move on. >> and work-- >> if you will. and so anyway, i think it's good. i think tha
comprehensive entitlement reforms in exchange for an increase tax rate? >> i think that's an excellent question. let's make one thing clear. the entitlements have little to do with the day-to-day operation of the budget. they have their own separate budgets. they're paid for in a separate manner, through payroll taxes. so anybody that wants to do that is really holding the issue hostage. the other side is good at doing that. republicans have been very good at holding us hostage. we said to them at least pass the middle chas tax cuts and let's continue those and then we'll debate the other stuff. there is no compromising these ideologues. i want compromise. people want them to come together. if you hold the other issue or the other side hostage, it's not going to get done. i'm a little less optimistic than i was last week when i hear from staff and the discussions that are going on behind the scenes. i'm less optimistic about it. but i'm in there fighting for resolution. if we kick the can down the road, alex, this is the worst thing that we can do. it only builds up anxiety in the markets. >> i
taxes in the country, a $10 billion deficit, and a depressed economy when first-year governor chris christie took office. but after looking at the books, he decided to walk away from a long-planned and much-needed project with new york and the federal government to build a rail tunnel into manhattan. it would have helped the economy and given employment to 6,000 construction workers. lots of jobs. >> yeah. i canceled it. i mean, listen, the bottom line is, i don't have the money. and you know what? i can't pay people for those jobs if i don't have the money to pay them. where am i getting the money? i don't have it. i literally don't have it. >> this is going on all over the country. >> yes. of course it is. it's not like you can avoid it forever, 'cause it's here now, and we all know it's here, and the federal government doesn't have the money to paper over it anymore either for the states. the day of reckoning has arrived. that's it. and it's gonna arrive everywhere. time may vary a little bit depending upon which state you're in, but it's coming. >> and nowhere has the reckoning
, we're talking about money and politics. >> a gusher of a campaign taxes. >> this has been the most expensive election of all time. >> we're here on the campus of ucla law school where they debate constitutional issues. today they're doing a convention on money out and voters in. >> and we have our elbow of the day later. jr jackson is going to love this. tweet us at tyt on current if you can guess who it is. zisko>>>el granada is a special place to learn because we have a dedicated community and a dedicated staff. and when kids come on campus everyday, they're enthusiasm for learning shines. we receive federal funding because a majority of our students are socially disadvantaged. making sure our students receive healthy nutritious lunches and breakfasts is critical to their learning. i would like to see students take more ownership of what they eat everyday and learn about their bodies and how their food nourishes them. sandra jonaidi>>> i hope that we get them early enough that they've learn some good eating habits and they go forward and become ver
of campaign tax. >> this has been the most expensive election of all times. >> we're here on the campus of ucla law school where they argue constitution. today they're discussing money out, voters in. >> and jayar jackson will love this. tweet us on @tytoncurrent if you can guess who it is. before the cold & flu season help prevent with lysol. because when you have 10 times more protection with each hand wash... and kill 99.9% of germs around the house with each spray... those healthy habits start to add up. this season, a good offense is the best defense and lysol has your family covered because that's our mission for health. >> it's no secret to regular viewers of this show that cenk has long been passionate, unbelievably passionate about campaign finance reform. this past weekend at ucla law school, he was invited to participate in a conference called money out voters in. let's take a look at how that worked out. >> cenk: we're here on the campus of ucla law school. where they debate constitutional issues. today they're doing a convention on money
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